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Wet chain lube versus dry

Corrosion resistance and more compared


Posted: 25 January 2010
by Richard Hallett

rusty chain
Wet lube washes out
rusty chain
Dry lube is displaced

Recent weather conditions have prompted local authorities to apply vast quantities of rock salt to Britain's roads, thus creating the perfect conditions in which to test at least one of the properties ideally possessed by cycle chain lube.

As the snow and ice to which rock salt has been applied melts, they dissolve the salt and leave puddles of concentrated brine - plus other unpleasant solutes and contaminants held in suspension - covering the roads. Even on a mudguarded bike, this foul soup gets splashed all over the transmission and quickly soaks into the small spaces contained in the chain.

The steel used for the chain is, of course, prone to rust in even the mildest of watery conditions and brine is a much more aggressive agent of corrosion. Chain lube, besides providing a lubricating film between sliding surfaces, might be expected to coat them and thereby hinder the corrosion process. Which does a better job: wet or dry lube?

There are, of course, various wet and dry lubes of differing composition and, presumably, effectiveness. For the purposes of comparison we applied Muc-Off wet lube and Squirt dry lube to two chains prior to riding in especially challenging conditions. The former is the kind of thick, slow-flowing stuff that sticks to everything and might be expected to keep salt water at bay; the latter is a water-soluble dry lube with a fine reputation.

One of the problems - the fundamental problem - with dry lubes is that the deposit of lubricant gets rubbed away from the surfaces it is expected to protect as they move relative to each other - and stays away once rubbed off. The deposit has to have somewhere to go, of course, which is why black gunge gets squeezed out of the gaps between the side plates of a chain treated with a dry lube.

Looking at the two chains, pictured after they had been allowed to dry overnight, it is apparent that there are clear differences in outcome. The rollers of the dry lube-treated chain have plenty of visible surface rust on an otherwise shiny surface where no lube remains, while the sideplates appear unaffected by corrosion.

Contrastingly, the wet lube-treated chain has surface rust on the outside of the plates while the rollers appear to be oily and dirty if relatively rust-free.

Importantly, both chains have stiff links, those of the dry lubed chain being less obvious because it is fitted to a fixed wheel bike and cannot articulate to the same degree between sprocket and chainwheel. However, the dry-lubed chain ran much more smoothly afterwards with no "gritty" feel and even without the further application of lube soon freed off. The wet-lubed chain felt awful and needed a good clean before it would run smoothly.

The obvious conclusion is that the wax contained in the dry lube makes a more effective barrier to corrosion than the oil of the wet lube. Although the sideplates of the wet lubed chain retain some oil coverage, they have rusted slightly. Those of the dry-lubed chain have not. Note that the chains are not the same model and that one may be less corrosion resistant than the other.

We may also conclude that the wet lube, as generally believed, attracts and holds grit. It also fails to prevent rust attacking the inside surfaces of the chain, the stiff links indicating that they have begun to corrode despite the fact that the chain visibly retains a film of oil.

Furthermore, while the dry lube rubs away to reveal unprotected metal, which is why the rollers have rusted, enough stays inside the chain to keep it running well even with a degree of internal corrosion.

And, finally, the dry lube does not attract grit to anything like the same degree, meaning that a new application of lube is all that is needed to get it running nicely again. We haven't bothered yet since it is fine as is.

So, for severe winter use a dry lube - and this one on particular - not only keeps the chain running more smoothly but staves off corrosion and, since it does not attract abrasive grit, should ensure a longer service life for chain and sprockets.


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If you ask me, both of these chains have been insufficiently lubricated for the winter.

Personally, I use Finish Line off-road wet lube but anything nice and thick will do, even grease.

The main thing I've found is to avoid stripping your chain. The thick black gunk will help protect it until spring. Just give it a wipe every week or so and apply more lube.


Posted: 26/01/2010 12:40

Funnily enough, every time I've tried a dry lube in winter, the noise of the chain 2 hours in has reminded me to never experiment with dry lubes again.


Posted: 26/01/2010 13:28

Good work Richard.

Ive found it helps if you wipe the chain off after the ride and applying lube staright away to avoid the surface rust.The trouble being after the recent cold rides  my feet are 2 blocks of ice and my fingers have no dexterity and a warm house beckon its hard to think about chain lube.

Dave Powell and jason Miles of Team Ragley just finished Strathpuffer in 2nd and 3rd in the solos.Dave rode 163 miles without relubing during the race running Squirt.Alot of folk believe dry lube means for a dry day.

Old brown mutt .....try a wax based dry lube.


Posted: 26/01/2010 13:29

I use wax lube through the summer on the road and all year on my MTB & cross bikes because the dirt shedding properties are unbeatable. I use something like Finish Line in the winter on my road bike because the wax washes off on very wet rides and the chain can go rusty if not re-lubed immediately, but the chain and the components get so filthy even with constant cleaning that I'm seriously thinking of just keeping using the wax lube throughout the year on all bikes. OK its a pain having to re-lube with wax after nearly every ride but I think its worth it for reduced wear and clean components and not having the dreaded chain mark on the calves or black hands as soon as you even look at the bike. If you're getting serious transmission noise OBM you may need to apply a bit more.

PS I agree both chains in the article look grossly under-lubed one of mine has never looked like those however much I've neglected them.


Posted: 26/01/2010 13:40

Mich O'Phull wrote (see)

If you ask me, both of these chains have been insufficiently lubricated for the winter.



coolboarder wrote (see)

PS I agree both chains in the article look grossly under-lubed one of mine has never looked like those however much I've neglected them.


Maybe I wasn't sufficiently clear; both chains started their respective rides well-lubed ie. with as much lube applied as I generally think necessary. Copious washing with salty water rinsed both chains effectively and both were put away overnight to dry without the application of further lube in order to see what happened.

Whether they were insufficiently lubed before the ride is a matter for debate but, since my chain care method gets me more than 2000 miles out of any chain in winter and they run smoothly when given that care, I'll stick by it.

Once the chain is adequately lubed, which basically means inside the bushings, further application does not make it run better and will simply attract more abrasive grit, thus hastening the wear of chain ring and sprocket teeth.

OBM, the dry-lubed chain didn't squeak even though I continued to ride it for several days without applying more


Posted: 27/01/2010 14:12

Richard Hallett wrote (see)

Maybe I wasn't sufficiently clear; both chains started their respective rides well-lubed ie. with as much lube applied as I generally think necessary. Copious washing with salty water rinsed both chains effectively and both were put away overnight to dry without the application of further lube in order to see what happened.

Forgive me if I am confused Richard. Your article suggests that, 'the chains were used under especially challenging conditions', which implies riding on some particularly wet salty roads and rain, but your post suggests you washed them to the point of destruction in salty water then left them to dry. This would account for the distressed state of them but is hardly an objective test of normal road conditions or the standard of maintenace the average cyclist would undertake.


Posted: 27/01/2010 14:35

"Hardly an objective test of normal road conditions or the standard of maintenace the average cyclist would undertake"

Quite so; the point of the test was to see what sort of protection each type of lube would offer from the worst kind of riding conditions. An accelerated test, for sure. Bear in mind that the actual ride - about an hour in heavy rain -  is the kind of riding that does challenge chain lubes since few cyclists will bother to stop and apply more during the ride. Water is, of course, itself an effective lubricant in sufficient quantities, which is why there is no need to lube a chain during a wet ride. Only as it dries out does it need lubing.

Assuming that the actual lubricity of either is not the issue at this time of year, I'd say corrosion protection is worth testing. IMO the outcome also shed some light on the issue of whether a dry lube does in fact get squeezed out of the bushings. It also shows to what extent wet lube gets washed out by water.


Posted: 27/01/2010 15:57

Richard. I'm convinced that dry lubes offer the best compromise under most normal riding conditions for keeping things rolling nicely and not accumulating that evil black sludge that appears with wet lubes. But I wonder if some of the doubters have prepared their chain properly i.e. degreased it thoroughly before givng it 2 applications before riding. There's probably is little doubt that a new, degreased chain which has then been lightly oiled will give the best performance in terms of low friction however it is hardly practical for everyday use unless you have a full time mechanic at your beck and call. One of the difficulties with wax lube though is, as you suggested, knowing just how much is retained in the bushes and devising an objective test to compare the increase in friction over the ideal scenario or with a chain with wet lube which starts very rapidly to accumulate dirt and therefore degrades its performance. Perhaps you can devise a cunning test for that! I decided that in the summer the whole point of wax lubes i.e. shedding dirt and staying clean is lost if you over-apply but one wet ride will certainly soon have the rollers rusty. I do take a little bottle of lube with me if I'm going out for a very long ride and will re-apply a little everyday on a tour. Incidentally anyone ever doubted how good wax lubes are at shedding dirt only needs to look at the floor under a turbo trainer after a session.
Posted: 27/01/2010 16:39

The experiment is flawed in so many ways!  As you admit, different chains (and we all know the better ones are much more resistant to rust), just one ride, one application of lube, and one bike is a fixed gear and other looks to be a roadified mtb, so the chain will be getting different amounts of road spray, and be flexed a lot more on the geared bike.

You need two new chains, on the same maintenance schedule, on the same type of bikes.  Ideally ridden at the same times with a regular riding buddy who you know will make the effort to apply lube at the same time as you.

 After one month or so, you have your results, hopefully much more conclusive  


Posted: 28/01/2010 07:03

It's all a bit of fun. You can test extensively and draw to conclusion the best lube which others will still have better alternatives. That's the trouble with democracy - it would work much better if everyone just did as they were told
Posted: 28/01/2010 08:30

Yup, ignore the results as you see fit. Or read the article again and see what was being tested.

BTW, the white bike is a Boardman CX pro 'crosser with mudguards


Posted: 28/01/2010 09:28

Do most people not clean the chain after each winter/wet/salty ride, then use GT85 or similar? if so, how does this affect the dry lube? Would you have to totally degrease and reapply painstakingly each time.

My chain never shows any rust with my routine. A smidge of wet lube before a ride and a clean down afterwards means no thick black sludge either


Posted: 29/01/2010 12:54

My feeling is that a good dry lube keeps the chain clean enough to avoid the need for frequent cleaning.

I only ever clean a chain using the degreaser/flush with car wash/rinse with clean water method which is time-consuming so not having to do it is good.

YMMV...


Posted: 29/01/2010 14:12

I have habitually used a chain for the winter with wet lube and one for the summer with dry lube. In the light of Richard's test and what I knew already really, I won't bother in future. The test reassured me that although some rust was apparent on the rollers after a wet ride this is little more than cosmetic and the chain will continue to function normally. I do still tend to wipe the chain through an old dry rag after a dirty ride and get the excess residue off the chainrings and rear mech jockey wheels but this is more aesthetic than functional. Need to watch out for the bits of horrible black waxy residue though that get scraped off, get those on the soles of your shoes and walk them in the house and hell hath no fury like a women who has black waxy smudges on her beige carpet!
Posted: 29/01/2010 15:21

There are of course the 'Middle Ground' lubes which sit between the Dry & Wet lubes. marketing dictates they are called by different names, but those that fall into that category are Syn Lubes or Lubes with ceramics in them.

Double lubing is an interesting reference made by one person on here. I've in the past tried Dry Lube on first and Wet on top, while removing the excess from the rollers first.

I recently was talking with Kurt from Morgan Blue (supplier to 12 Pro Tour Teams) and he said that each Team had their own preference, and as a whole didn't change lube regardless of the weather conditions. As RH rightly points out, water is a lubricant, and its only when it stops raining and starts to dry out you have issues.

The ideal lube would be as clean as Wax, have longevity like a Wet and perform like a Dry. If I find some I'll let you know.


Posted: 18/02/2010 09:16

Thanks Rich. Who could forget your legendary article for RCUK on the subject of lubricity?

However, I believe your reference to "double lubing" breaks new ground...


Posted: 18/02/2010 10:55

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